Hi all,
I have two ragdolls and would like to know if they are high mitted bi-color. I know their father is a Blue Color Point and their mother is a Seal Bi-Color. But that's all I know, I do not know what their parents carry inside. Can DNA testing tell you what they color they carry inside?
Thank you!
Note: I couldn't just upload the jpg because I couldn't resize it down to 60K. I have save the photo in the word file. Please see attachment for photos thank you.
There is no DNA test for the White Spotting Genes; however, you do not need it. A CP and bicolor who produce bicolors are not high mitted bicolors, but "true" bicolors, having ONE level four WSG. A CP bred to a high mitted bicolor will have ONLY mitted kittens.
Hello! Your kitties are both cute
I would think that because their dad is a colourpoint, they are both bicolours. A high mitted can be produced from a mitted x mitted mating or a mitted x bicolour mating, but not a bicolour x colourpoint mating (which the parents are). However the high mitted and bicolour patterns basically look the same! These patterns depend on the white spotting factor (the amount of white a cat carries), which is different to the actual colour (seal, blue etc). You can DNA test for colour but not for white. From the pic they both look like seal bicolours, and because their dad is a blue they would also carry a dilute gene. You would have to DNA test to see if they carry chocolate.
(06-06-2010 08:58 PM)CandyKiss Wrote: [ -> ]A high mitted can be produced from... a mitted x bicolour mating
Only if the bicolor is high mitted and not "true" bicolor. A mitted x "true" bicolor can produce colorpoint, mitted, "true" bicolor and mid high white kittens, but not high mitted bicolors.
Oh thank you all ~
CandyKiss, thank you ~
But I am still worry because the kitten on the right has a bit of a color under the chin... and from what I know, ragdoll don't have any color under their chin...
I don't know if you can see it clearly from the photo. Also, his face /mask looks a bit strange...I have not seen a ragdoll with this mask... such a narrow inverted V and the mask covering over 50% of the face.....
There are many white mismarks. On the cat on the right, the picture does not show the front legs. However, if you have the parents correct, then the kittens cannot be genetic mitted and must be "true" bicolors. The picture does not show anything inconsistent with that beyond possible mismarks that make for pet quality.
JanH,
Thanks, his front legs is just pure white. In fact, all his four legs are pure white. As for his chin, I got a bit worry because I read "ragdoll" from wikipedia and it said "Ragdolls have white chins, while Birmans have colored chins, although breeders recognize the two by head shape and boning." which makes me think twice.
Mismark = just like birth mark at the wrong places? Have you seen other ragdolls having mismarks like he does?
But having said that, I love him just as much as the others in the house.
Hi Zou, like you say, a miss-mark is a bit like a birthmark in that it is a splodge of colour which appears where it shouldn't be. In the case of your cat on the right of the picture his inverted v is a bit short and the colour extends from the right side of his face round under his chin. This is perfectly acceptable and makes your cat unique in his markings but it does mean that he wouldn't meet the standard of points required for the show bench.
Nature provides us with many miss-marks, particularly in the bi-colours, but this just makes them more individual and no less appealing as a pet. Indeed, many people who are looking for a pet ragdoll will see the miss-marks and find them endearing and want the miss-marked kitten in preference to a perfectly marked sibling.
(06-06-2010 11:57 PM)zou Wrote: [ -> ]I got a bit worry because I read "ragdoll" from wikipedia and it said "Ragdolls have white chins, while Birmans have colored chins
This is about the mitted pattern and even mitted Ragdolls have dark chins, although it also is a mismark. (A colorpoint Ragdoll is supposed to have a dark chin.)