Yes me again! Bugging all the wonderful breeders out there who have already given such great advice
So I'm hearing some stuff about girls coming into heat too early to be mated and possibly developing pyometra... it peaked my interest when I saw an ad for a vasectamized male and how they could be used to prevent pyometra while not getting the girls pregnant. Is using such a male common practise? Vasectamized males still have their "bits" and produce hormones, but they have a procedure to make them infertile, right? Can a desexed male also serve the same purpose? (providing he knows how to do it!)
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I can envision a few boys out there reading this and crossing their legs, ha ha! Good luck with your question Jo, it is interesting!
Do not worry about young queens getting pyometra from not being mated. My guess is that the pyo risk is higher from mating with a so called teaser tom. (I had understood teaser toms could have been castrated, but would still be sufficiently enticed by a whole female in heat.)
It will be interesting if anyone has actual experience, but you will have a broader breeder audience for your question on Fanciers Health or THE List.
Thanks Jan, I shall go forth and expand my query!
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I dont know how it works with cats for vasectomy, however my friend has a dog who has had a vasectomy not a neuter.
The dog is a large bulldog and is a beautiful creature. They wanted to keep his hormones so that he could grow to his full potential and not get all lanky like his neutered brother. It worked out wonderfully.
Also, I dont know how it works elsewhere, but here they just remove the testicles and nothing else for a neuter. Some males still have a sex drive even when neutered and will mount and mate but cant produce kittens. Some spayed females will even posture and allow a male to mount and mate them.
We have a vasectomised male and they are operated on through the stomach .... its is not an easy procedure and not many vets do it . Our boy was done by a team of 3 vets and he is in many ways still entire just has had a nip and tuck internally so he fires blanks as such
You also have to wait at least 3 months after the OP before they are deemed suitable not to sire a litter
Our boy Montage is still as masculine and frankly is the most gentle boy with the ladies but very good at what he does . Vets advise to vasectomise boys who are not only experienced but good at what they do
.. there are no side affects that I am aware of and yes you can put maiden queens in wih him too
I have only ever had one girl with pyometra and she came to me as an older female however it was an open infection , we treated her successfully and she will be mated the once as her lines are excellent . However she is living with the boy over the cooler months as we have to be very watchful to ensure when she does come back on call she will be mated and she will be going on a course of AB's just in case
All my females are cycled thru as I prefer not to mate our girls every season , some of our girls only have had 2 litters each in 4 years , works for us though we do not have many prolific (sp?) callers either
Hi Blueskydolls, yes I think it is the same procedure for desexing males here (I also hear that when desexed at an early age, the boys don't develop barbs). My friend has 2 moggies, a desexed boy and an entire girl and he is always trying to do SOMETHING (he doesn't know what!) when she comes into call
He doesn't seem successful tho.
Thanks for your imput Ragsrus, I had a browse on Fanciers Health last night and found quite a few O/S breeders using vasectomized males too, and the main arguement was actually finding a vet who would do it! I did not know the vasectomised male should be an ex-stud, but it does make sense. I can really see the benefit of having one and thanks for sharing your positive experience! I am hoping my girls will not be an issue when it comes to pyometra, but a vasectamized boy would be very handy when planning litters, especially when you want a girl to skip a year. I'm not a fan of giving them too many drugs either so this is a good natural option. Also I don't want to end up with a bunch of kittens just because the female wants to be mated!
Thanks for everyone's responses
I do not believe the barb remains after studs are castrated.
While i was visiting my breeder, she showed me her boy that had been vasectamized. She only had the one. He looked like a very happy boy. hehehehe.
Haha I was thinking the same thing Meghan! I wonder if the studs get jealous when the "V" boy gets more girl attention than them?