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Hi my name is Sheena and i adopted a blue bi color in canada about a year ago.  I actually have a few questions if someone could help me out...perhaps a breeder.

So as i said, i have owned a ragdoll for about a year now. He was born on the 28th of march 2006. I find that my ragdoll starts screaming when i pick him up for more than 30 seconds... and a couple of times has scratched my face on rare occasions if i dont put him down.  He's not injured or anything just irritated. Is this normal because he is a kitten?

Everyone keeps telling me he is supposed to relax and flop in my arms.

Even when i open the door to go outside he sprints out the door and will not come back. I find that he hisses at people on the street instead of being trustworthy. I lived in the city so if a guest came by my apartment he would sneak his way through sometimes.  He has never been out of my sight when he ran away.  So he couldn't have been abused or kidnapped or anything, he would just sprint into peoples yards and run away from me.

I have seen a vet and they have told me he just has character and follows his own set of rules, which i dont find to be a sufficient answer.

I guess my qu is there anything I can do to change his temperament or will he grow into a docile cat? I know it takes 2-4 yrs for them to mature. I mean dont get wrong he's sociable and he has "character", such as he used to sleep in my bed and sometimes he shoves his face into my foot or hand to be pet so i do and then he runs away after 2 mins.  But hes always getting into mischief and doesnt listen; he has grown attached to being sprayed with water when he does something wrong. He tends to become more energetic and causes more mischief.  
I have tried saying a harsh no when he eats the blinds or jumps on the kitchen counters, but he protests and meows and continues to do what he's doing. He doesn't fetch either, i have tried numerous ways to play with him but he'll play with it then walk away... but i'm more concerned about his behaviour.

On a sidenote, i have found that hes calmed down just a bit.. over the past yr.. and i do have another 8 yr old cat, which i know he wants to play with her but he attacks her every so often because she doesn't want to play.  I try to step in and play with him but he runs away playfully.

so sorry for the long post, but the point is.. is this a kitten thing or is he just nacissistic?  Is he just the odd one among the litter?  He's not scared of anything he just thinks the rules don't apply to him or something. and he likes being the center of attention around other people, I know he was socialized properly when he was younger.  
so can someone please give me some insight?

thanks sheena
Hi my name is sandy.,
I am a TICA registered ragdoll breeder in canada.
Yes some ragdoll's are like that and are not up to the breed standered because people breed cats with this personality which should be avoided.
It is all about money to some people and as he gets older he will get worse or stay the same you cannot break them of this.
I do not breed cats with his temperment cause it gives ragdolls a bad name.
hope this helps you out.
if you have any other questions just ask
Hi Sheena,I am sorry to hear that your radolls is giving you some trouble! It sound like you may have done so already, but make sure your kitty isn't crying when you pick him up because he is uncomfortable in any way.
Sound like he needs to be resocialized. Make sure you are giving him lots of attention and praise him ALLOT when he is good. When he is not good, ignore him for a good ten minutes. Make sure you redirect him when he tried to jump on the counters. I have saved up cans, and when my Lucia tries to start jumping on my counter, I will set them all up, like a booby trap. I have done with with the trash barrel and the toilet paper. When she knocks over the trash barrel, a plastic cup is waiting to tip over and pour water on her. She did it once and has not since in two weeks, but it's there waiting if she decides to! It sounds like it may take some training, but some of it does sound like, it might just be the personality of the cat. I would recommend feeding the kitty if you are about to open the door. If you know you are going out, feed the kitty and slip out the door. If someone comes to your door, feed the kitty then open the door. Try and minimize the chances your kitty has of doing the wrong thing, and when he does the right thing, make sure you praise, praise praise!
Good luck, hope this helps!




Sheens Wrote:Hi my name is Sheena and i adopted a blue bi color in canada about a year ago.  I actually have a few questions if someone could help me out...perhaps a breeder.

So as i said, i have owned a ragdoll for about a year now. He was born on the 28th of march 2006. I find that my ragdoll starts screaming when i pick him up for more than 30 seconds... and a couple of times has scratched my face on rare occasions if i dont put him down.  He's not injured or anything just irritated. Is this normal because he is a kitten?

Everyone keeps telling me he is supposed to relax and flop in my arms.

Even when i open the door to go outside he sprints out the door and will not come back. I find that he hisses at people on the street instead of being trustworthy. I lived in the city so if a guest came by my apartment he would sneak his way through sometimes.  He has never been out of my sight when he ran away.  So he couldn't have been abused or kidnapped or anything, he would just sprint into peoples yards and run away from me.

I have seen a vet and they have told me he just has character and follows his own set of rules, which i dont find to be a sufficient answer.

I guess my qu is there anything I can do to change his temperament or will he grow into a docile cat? I know it takes 2-4 yrs for them to mature. I mean dont get wrong he's sociable and he has "character", such as he used to sleep in my bed and sometimes he shoves his face into my foot or hand to be pet so i do and then he runs away after 2 mins.  But hes always getting into mischief and doesnt listen; he has grown attached to being sprayed with water when he does something wrong. He tends to become more energetic and causes more mischief.  
I have tried saying a harsh no when he eats the blinds or jumps on the kitchen counters, but he protests and meows and continues to do what he's doing. He doesn't fetch either, i have tried numerous ways to play with him but he'll play with it then walk away... but i'm more concerned about his behaviour.

On a sidenote, i have found that hes calmed down just a bit.. over the past yr.. and i do have another 8 yr old cat, which i know he wants to play with her but he attacks her every so often because she doesn't want to play.  I try to step in and play with him but he runs away playfully.

so sorry for the long post, but the point is.. is this a kitten thing or is he just nacissistic?  Is he just the odd one among the litter?  He's not scared of anything he just thinks the rules don't apply to him or something. and he likes being the center of attention around other people, I know he was socialized properly when he was younger.  
so can someone please give me some insight?

thanks sheena
Oh and remember, each cat is different. The ragdoll breed is has a certain tempermant, but each cat is truly unique, just try and learn his moods and work with the, but remember, you should always be boss! Smile



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Hi Sheena,I am sorry to hear that your radolls is giving you some trouble! It sound like you may have done so already, but make sure your kitty isn't crying when you pick him up because he is uncomfortable in any way.
Sound like he needs to be resocialized. Make sure you are giving him lots of attention and praise him ALLOT when he is good.  When he is not good, ignore him for a good ten minutes.  Make sure you redirect him when he tried to jump on the counters.  I have saved up cans, and when my Lucia tries to start jumping on my counter, I will set them all up, like a booby trap. I have done with with the trash barrel and the toilet paper.  When she knocks over the trash barrel, a plastic cup is waiting to tip over and pour water on her.  She did it once and has not since in two weeks, but it's there waiting  if she decides to!  It sounds like it may take some training, but some of it does sound like, it might just be the personality of the cat.  I would recommend feeding the kitty if you are about to open the door.  If you know you are going out, feed the kitty and slip out the door.  If someone comes to your door, feed the kitty then open the door. Try and minimize the chances your kitty has of doing the wrong thing, and when he does the right thing, make sure you praise, praise praise!
Good luck, hope this helps!




Sheens Wrote:Hi my name is Sheena and i adopted a blue bi color in canada about a year ago.  I actually have a few questions if someone could help me out...perhaps a breeder.

So as i said, i have owned a ragdoll for about a year now. He was born on the 28th of march 2006. I find that my ragdoll starts screaming when i pick him up for more than 30 seconds... and a couple of times has scratched my face on rare occasions if i dont put him down.  He's not injured or anything just irritated. Is this normal because he is a kitten?

Everyone keeps telling me he is supposed to relax and flop in my arms.

Even when i open the door to go outside he sprints out the door and will not come back. I find that he hisses at people on the street instead of being trustworthy. I lived in the city so if a guest came by my apartment he would sneak his way through sometimes.  He has never been out of my sight when he ran away.  So he couldn't have been abused or kidnapped or anything, he would just sprint into peoples yards and run away from me.

I have seen a vet and they have told me he just has character and follows his own set of rules, which i dont find to be a sufficient answer.

I guess my qu is there anything I can do to change his temperament or will he grow into a docile cat? I know it takes 2-4 yrs for them to mature. I mean dont get wrong he's sociable and he has "character", such as he used to sleep in my bed and sometimes he shoves his face into my foot or hand to be pet so i do and then he runs away after 2 mins.  But hes always getting into mischief and doesnt listen; he has grown attached to being sprayed with water when he does something wrong. He tends to become more energetic and causes more mischief.  
I have tried saying a harsh no when he eats the blinds or jumps on the kitchen counters, but he protests and meows and continues to do what he's doing. He doesn't fetch either, i have tried numerous ways to play with him but he'll play with it then walk away... but i'm more concerned about his behaviour.

On a sidenote, i have found that hes calmed down just a bit.. over the past yr.. and i do have another 8 yr old cat, which i know he wants to play with her but he attacks her every so often because she doesn't want to play.  I try to step in and play with him but he runs away playfully.

so sorry for the long post, but the point is.. is this a kitten thing or is he just nacissistic?  Is he just the odd one among the litter?  He's not scared of anything he just thinks the rules don't apply to him or something. and he likes being the center of attention around other people, I know he was socialized properly when he was younger.  
so can someone please give me some insight?

thanks sheena
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hello all,
sorry it's been a while. here is an update and info i forgot to add: he is actually neutered, which hasn't helped the whole "rambunctious" problem. I don't live in the city anymore so i let him out on the balcony now, which seems to satisfy him. He does run into the hallway of the apt complex i live in everytime someone opens the door though. I tried the food thing but hes not interested, he'll just keep pushing his way until the door is open or camp out in front of the door, i even moved the food bowl into another room.

I kinda gave up on him, he just does what he wants and when he wants to be pet i pet him for 1 minute or less. I do play with him, so i'm not neglecting him! hes tolerable lol...

i do have a couple of questions... what do you mean that he may get worse as he grows up sandycoles? is there ANYTHING i can do? obviously im not going to put him down, hes not aggressive or anything just playfully aggressive or "dramatic" and has character as the vet put it.

oh and another thing... my ragdoll is turning a more brownish color than grey... is this normal? hes supposed to be a blue bi color. does the grey eventually come in? i mean his face is grey and white but the rest of him looks like a cow... brownish and white, i thought it was just a phase but the brown is getting bolder... and larger lol but he is primarily white.

lastly, ive been noticing some matting going on the back of his hind legs... like in the "pantaloon" section... but dolce (my cat) won't let me untangle it or hold him, i tried holding him down against his will and then giving him treats after... but he just seems to get more aggressive.

thanks again for all your posts.
sheens
Hi Sheens, did you kitty come with papers?



Sheens Wrote:hello all,
sorry it's been a while.  here is an update and info i forgot to add: he is actually neutered, which hasn't helped the whole "rambunctious" problem.  I don't live in the city anymore so i let him out on the balcony now, which seems to satisfy him.  He does run into the hallway of the apt complex i live in everytime someone opens the door though. I tried the food thing but hes not interested, he'll just keep pushing his way until the door is open or camp out in front of the door, i even moved the food bowl into another room.

I kinda gave up on him, he just does what he wants and when he wants to be pet i pet him for 1 minute or less.  I do play with him, so i'm not neglecting him!  hes tolerable lol...

i do have a couple of questions... what do you mean that he may get worse as he grows up sandycoles?  is there ANYTHING i can do?  obviously im not going to put him down, hes not aggressive or anything just playfully aggressive or "dramatic" and has character as the vet put it.

oh and another thing... my ragdoll is turning a more brownish color than grey... is this normal?  hes supposed to be a blue bi color.  does the grey eventually come in?  i mean his face is grey and white but the rest of him looks like a cow... brownish and white, i thought it was just a phase but the brown is getting bolder... and larger lol but he is primarily white.

lastly, ive been noticing some matting going on the back of his hind legs... like in the "pantaloon" section... but dolce (my cat) won't let me untangle it or hold him, i tried holding him down against his will and then giving him treats after... but he just seems to get more aggressive.

thanks again for all your posts.
sheens
Hi, I know it is not appropriate to laugh, but this reminds me sooo much of our Seal Bi boy Elmo. We did not breed Elmo, but were asked to mind him whilst owners were selling their home and acquiring their new home. That sounded reasonable so said OK. He arrived in a brand new BMW with a small can of Fancy Feats and a small packet of Cat san and was told they MIGHT collect him in 12 months. MIGHT, we were speechless. Elmo was so grumpy, hissy and defensive, but boy did he have catitude all of his own. Elmo was never allowed to sit on the lounge, or bed, not allowed in dining area and most importantly must not shed hair. It is now five years later and we still have Elmo, lays all over the lounge, hangs of the table sleeps on beds and does all the things that cats should do. He is loved and loves us. When he wants something it is the sweetest meow, so gentle but should you annoy him you will get a swipe for your trouble. Its nice to know there is still a little bit of that first day Elmo still in him. He loves to go out and follow you around the paddock and it makes him feel like a king.

Try creative play time, stuffed sock on elastic, Crinkle balls to play fetch, grow him some cat grass. Get him used to a harness (maybe a trip outside when he is used to it. A LARGE scratch pole with lots of level/tunnels/hiddy holes etc.

They can mellow. Elmo is proof of that. (Yes his owners did come back about seven months ago and no we could not let them take him back as we had become to attached). A replacement kitten to them was the best solution.

Good luck, love does wonders
PS We still can not comb or brush Elmo easily, have to catch him in a good mood first
Hi Everyone!

Our Thomas (seal Bi) doesn't like to be combed either! We have had him for almost a yr. He was 6 months when we got him. I try and comb him when he is very sleepy, and just get at the places where he may mat up. So in other words, I'll comb him for maybe only a min. Then if he starts to try and run away, I just tell him "GOOD BOY!!" Seems like the more I do this, the more he is starting to like it.
islandgirl Wrote:Hi Everyone!

Our Thomas (seal Bi) doesn't like to be combed either! We have had him for almost a yr. He was 6 months when we got him. I try and comb him when he is very sleepy, and just get at the places where he may mat up. So in other words, I'll comb him for maybe only a min. Then if he starts to try and run away, I just tell him "GOOD BOY!!" Seems like the more I do this, the more he is starting to like it.
OhOh! As a potential ragdoll owner, I have been reading about the breed, & some of the articles say the cat's hair is more silky & does not tend to mat.
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