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Hello.

My husband and I purchased a ragdoll kitten from a breeder for my parents. The breeder let us have the kitten at 8 weeks of age. At first we thought the kitten was fine even though my mother would tell me that she was biting her and my father (their other cat passed away recently, but they'd never had a kitten before so we assumed that it was the normal kitten behavior). My mother also told me that she sucks alot... completely wets the corner of a blanket.

I visited them and couldn't believe my eyes. She was like a tiger. I was afraid to pick her up or touch her because she was having none of it. She ran over to my father while he was just sitting in the chair and dug her teeth into his hand. She attacks my mother's feet while she is just standing in the kitchen (we are talking blood being drawn). I have two ragdolls of my own (2 years old) and they never, ever behaved like this. I was very concerned for my parents and for the kitten. I didn't know what was wrong with her, but I didn't want her to grow up to 15 pds and be like this as nobody would be able to deal with her. In the natural course of things she would have lived with us because my parents are quite elderly.

I spoke with the breeder and she offered to take the kitten back and give my folks another kitten out of a future litter. Of course, my parents have serious health issues and I was very distressed that they would have to wait 3 + months for another kitten. Also, I am somewhat concerned about why a kitten from this breeder would be like this. I could have gone to the pound and ended up with a more docile loving cat than her much less paying 600.00 for a completely unsocialized wild kitten.

To make an even longer story shorter, we did return the kitten and now my poor parents have to wait so long for another one from the same breeder. When we returned the kitten she went crazy right in the breeder's living room. To the point that the breeder had to grab the back of her neck and press her into the floor to keep her from biting her. Nuts, eh? A week or so later the breeder contacted me and told me that she had two kittens that she would give my mother. Two? I asked her if these were the kittens that survived from a recent litter where the mother had come down with the calicivirus and all but these two died. (btw, stupidly my husband and I had already put a deposit down for US to get another kitten from her out of that litter way before we realized what was going on with my parents' kitten). They were those kittens and I just couldn't understand why she would give up two kittens for one and the virus thing made me leary so I said we didn't want them. Anyway, I asked her if she would return our money so that my parents can have a kitten much sooner (everyday is a blessing when you get into your 80's). She said no. That there was really nothing wrong with the kitten and that we could either have her back or take one from the litter in 3 months. She said that there is never a guarantee about temperment.. "some are lap cats and some are not... she just doesn't like to be touched or held." What? To me this behavior in no way can be described as not being a "lap cat" and a ragdoll that doesn't want to be touched or held? My two ragdolls are not lap cats, but they are very loving and will let you hold them, etc. without attacking you.

Does anybody have any advice for me? I'm afraid that if I do make my folks wait for another kitten, it may be just like this last one.

To sum up: we are out 600+ if we don't get another kitten from her AND she will not return our deposit on our kitten and there is no way I want to get into purchasing another kitten so we are out 150.00 for that one.

Thanks so much. Really need some advice.

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My thoughts are the breeder left that kitten go way to young.
Ragdoll kittens need to stay with there mother till there at least 12 weeks old to learn social skills.
So if you take other one I would make the breeder keep the kitten till it is at lest 12 weeks old.
A reputable breeder is not leaving there raggies go at 8 week old.Hmmmm....Red flags for me....
For your deposit did she state that it was non refundable that is a large deposit most breeder may ask for a small deposit or none at all to get on a list.
I was also going to suggest that your parents may be happier with a retired breeder a lot of times you can find a retired breeder that needs a forever home at a reasonable price.
I'm sure some more experence breeders or people on the forum may have better suggestion
One is better off with an out of pocket loss than with the same expense AND a problematic cat. You need to decide if you want a kitten from a particular source (and I am not commenting on that) and use that to decide what to do - not whether money will be "wasted."
Hi,

A few things concern me regarding this issue.

First of all 8 weeks is way too young to be released from it's mother and littermates. Most breeders let the kittens go at 11-12+ weeks of age for socialization skills. A lot of breeders also do early spay/neuter and that is another reason they stay until that time.

The kitten does have a personality problem. I cant believe she would release a kitten like this to an older couple. Part of it is socialization from the breeder and part inherited. Are the parents in her home? How are the kittens cared for? Is the cattery registered with TICA, CFA, or RFCI? Some of these have a grievance or ethics committee you may want to write to. Did you get a health guarantee? Is it stated the deposit is non-refundable? A lot of breeders I know will refund up to 5 weeks or for certain reasons.

I believe you are justified to get your deposit back and honestly if it were me I would refund your $600 for your parents kitten as they should not have to wait. Read the contract and see if there is some other course of action.

Good luck.
That's such a shame, I hope it all works out and your parents finally get a sweet, loving cat! Keep us posted!
Just out of curiosity, are you and your husband planning on taking whatever cat/kitten your parents get, if something happens which makes it impossible for your parents to care for a pet, or have you at least made contingency plans for someone to give the cat a new home? This is something I'm sure you've already thought of, considering that your parents are in their 80s. Having pets is wonderful for elderly people, with SO many benefits, but their age does mean that contingency plans must be made (which I think should actually be done no matter what age you are, but especially if the owners are elderly). But again, I'm sure that this is something you already thought about and arranged for before getting them that first kitten...
WinstonsandOlliesMom Wrote:That's such a shame, I hope it all works out and your parents finally get a sweet, loving cat! Keep us posted!
Just out of curiosity, are you and your husband planning on taking whatever cat/kitten your parents get, if something happens which makes it impossible for your parents to care for a pet, or have you at least made contingency plans for someone to give the cat a new home? This is something I'm sure you've already thought of, considering that your parents are in their 80s. Having pets is wonderful for elderly people, with SO many benefits, but their age does mean that contingency plans must be made (which I think should actually be done no matter what age you are, but especially if the owners are elderly). But again, I'm sure that this is something you already thought about and arranged for before getting them that first kitten...

Absolutely. We have two ragdolls now (age 2) and we already discussed that she would be living with us eventually. Good concern and I appreciate it.
Wonderful! I hope that they get a sweet kitten/cat soon... life can be so isolated when you're that age, even with attentive grown children living nearby, and having a pet to love (and be loved by!) and take care of can be such a wonderful thing. Keep us posted!
She just sent me an email and is offering a kitty that she said she purchased as a breeder but will not be breeding anymore after this year (news to me but not a surprise). She says this girl is very sweet and loves to be held. She sent me photos of her. She said she is ready to go now to my parents if we would like her (born May 20).

She looks like a seal with a big blaze that runs down her nose (nose is pink) and over her entire upper lip area.

What do you all think?

Maybe better than one from her breeders?

Thanks for advice.
I assume this "breeder" will be spay prior to going to your home. Usually retired breeders go for less money than kittens since they are already adults.

Hope it works out.
Megailee Wrote:I assume this "breeder" will be spay prior to going to your home. Usually retired breeders go for less money than kittens since they are already adults.

Hope it works out.

I haven't emailed her back, but from I gather she didn't breed her at all... she was born May 20. She says she isn't breeding anymore after this year - gee, I wonder why.

I have written RI and hope to hear back from them. My husband says he doesn't think we are getting any money back from her and that we should take this girl because at least she wasn't bred by her. I wish I could just tell her to jump in the lake.
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