05-23-2009, 11:01 AM
Fay has calmed down a lot. This is the first time she hasn't been howling and sticking very close to me in days. She's asleep on the floor in the beedroom.
05-23-2009, 11:01 AM
05-25-2009, 10:51 AM
I still haven't gotten Fay's vet reocrds but I did have that long conversation with her owner. She bought Fay and her littermate Abigale from a breeder half way across the state over 2 years ago. The 'contract' included the breeder having Fay spayed and eventually breeding the owners older Raggie with one of the breeders cats. The breeding with the breeders cat never happened and Fay showed up with the stitches still in from her operation. My neighbor isn't happy with the breeder.
She also said a vet gave Fay corticalsteroid shots for the itching she has around her hind quarters.
I'm comletely unsure of the situation now. A few days ago I saw sure she was in heat. The fast rolling, rub marking everything, butt raising and yowling had me convinced she was in heat. Now I wonder if the butt raising was an offer for me to sniff her to get to know each other better. It was pretty extremem though. On the other hand she could be lonely after leaving a house with 2 other cats, 5 children and 2 adults. That was a lot of stimulation and the loud meows, sighing and yowls could be her missing Abigale.
When Fay started yowling last night I started loudly saying 'No' rather than paying attention and reenforcing the yowling behavior. She's quieted down and didn't wake me with yowling last night. I don't know if my actions quieted her or she went out of heat, that had started Monday night.
We're still best buddies and she's been in my lap and around my neck 4 times already today. It's tough to get at the computer, she always wants to climb on me when I sit in this chair. It's also the chair she hopped up in and spent a lot of time rolling on and cheek marking the arms.
The 5 kids is probably why Fay's former owner isn't fast with the paperwork.
She also said a vet gave Fay corticalsteroid shots for the itching she has around her hind quarters.
I'm comletely unsure of the situation now. A few days ago I saw sure she was in heat. The fast rolling, rub marking everything, butt raising and yowling had me convinced she was in heat. Now I wonder if the butt raising was an offer for me to sniff her to get to know each other better. It was pretty extremem though. On the other hand she could be lonely after leaving a house with 2 other cats, 5 children and 2 adults. That was a lot of stimulation and the loud meows, sighing and yowls could be her missing Abigale.
When Fay started yowling last night I started loudly saying 'No' rather than paying attention and reenforcing the yowling behavior. She's quieted down and didn't wake me with yowling last night. I don't know if my actions quieted her or she went out of heat, that had started Monday night.
We're still best buddies and she's been in my lap and around my neck 4 times already today. It's tough to get at the computer, she always wants to climb on me when I sit in this chair. It's also the chair she hopped up in and spent a lot of time rolling on and cheek marking the arms.
The 5 kids is probably why Fay's former owner isn't fast with the paperwork.
05-25-2009, 11:20 AM
It truly sounded like she was in heat to me - and the best way to tell is get her to the vet as soon as she starts next time. Of course, if she wasn't in heat, it won't start again......so that will be one way to tell. However, the fact that the family wanted her gone from the yowling and peeing, still leads me to believe "heat".
I'm glad she is still doing so well with you. Does she still seem to have itching around her hindquarters? If so, possibly allergies - and I wonder if the change in food you've given her has helped, or once again, it could have been stress causing the itching, overgrooming of hind quarters, and being out of the home situation has caused it to go away....
Just some of my thoughts.
I'm glad she is still doing so well with you. Does she still seem to have itching around her hindquarters? If so, possibly allergies - and I wonder if the change in food you've given her has helped, or once again, it could have been stress causing the itching, overgrooming of hind quarters, and being out of the home situation has caused it to go away....
Just some of my thoughts.
05-25-2009, 12:57 PM
There may be a way to find out if she's in heat, lonely or understimulated. If I can rule out the ovarian remnants I'll be getting her a buddy cat really fast.
From Kewlkat's article maybe I can find out next week.
"proving that a cat's estrogen-secreting tissue is capable of ovulation and that it responds to pituitary hormones is another very good way of confirming the presence of ovarian remnants (as opposed to estrogen-secreting tumours and centrally-mediated nymphomania). This can be done in two ways:
3a. Measure the cat's progesterone levels one week after the signs of estrus (heat) have resolved. In a cat with ovarian remnant syndrome, the cessation of estrus signs should be the result of ovulation of the estrogen-secreting follicles and their replacement with progesterone-secreting corpus lutea. A progesterone level of >2ng/ml is suggestive of ovulation having occurred (i.e. a diagnosis of ovarian remnant syndrome).
3b. Induce the cat to ovulate using hCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) or GnRH (gonadotrophin releasing hormone). If a cat with ovarian remnant syndrome is given either 250IU/cat of hCG or 25ug/cat of GnRH whilst she is in heat (showing signs of heat), she should ovulate. A week later, her serum progesterone levels should be >2ng/ml, which is supportive of ovulation having occurred. A spayed cat with an estrogen secreting tumour or a centrally-mediated nymphomania should not ovulate in response to hCG or GnRH and, consequently, no rise in progesterone levels one week after administration of these
hormones should be found"
From Kewlkat's article maybe I can find out next week.
"proving that a cat's estrogen-secreting tissue is capable of ovulation and that it responds to pituitary hormones is another very good way of confirming the presence of ovarian remnants (as opposed to estrogen-secreting tumours and centrally-mediated nymphomania). This can be done in two ways:
3a. Measure the cat's progesterone levels one week after the signs of estrus (heat) have resolved. In a cat with ovarian remnant syndrome, the cessation of estrus signs should be the result of ovulation of the estrogen-secreting follicles and their replacement with progesterone-secreting corpus lutea. A progesterone level of >2ng/ml is suggestive of ovulation having occurred (i.e. a diagnosis of ovarian remnant syndrome).
3b. Induce the cat to ovulate using hCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) or GnRH (gonadotrophin releasing hormone). If a cat with ovarian remnant syndrome is given either 250IU/cat of hCG or 25ug/cat of GnRH whilst she is in heat (showing signs of heat), she should ovulate. A week later, her serum progesterone levels should be >2ng/ml, which is supportive of ovulation having occurred. A spayed cat with an estrogen secreting tumour or a centrally-mediated nymphomania should not ovulate in response to hCG or GnRH and, consequently, no rise in progesterone levels one week after administration of these
hormones should be found"